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Issue 286
(OBP-499)
Tuesday 14th April 2009
(next update week ending 25th April 2009)

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Editorial & Features

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Oxford agrees LEZ (Low Emission Zone)

Megabusplus is launched
Travel Line website by Nigel McBride
Luton Town FC Success by Carl
Where are they now? A big surprise from Chris Maxfield?
Review of new National Coaches handbook

Woottens celebrates its 10th anniversary
Stephen Le Bras visits Oxford
A visit to Oxford by Geoff Cunliffe
Steve Annells on the stop "City Vicar"
Pictureview & seen in Oxford

 

Oxford agrees LEZ (Low Emission Zone)

 

All PCVs must comply to Euro 5 standards by the end 2013

OXFORD city centre was declared a Low Emission Zone, a week or so ago, in an effort to combat pollution. The move will mean only buses meeting strict European standards will be able to operate in central Oxford. However the tough restrictions will not apply to lorries, vans or other vehicles.

Local bus firms will be given a 2013 deadline to ensure their fleets comply.

Oxford City Council has decided it would be too costly and difficult to enforce a ban on all “dirty” vehicles in the city, arguing buses and coaches were responsible for about 80 per cent of pollution in Oxford.

Oxfordshire County Council is expected to endorse the city’s plans to create one of the first Low Emission Zones outside London after councillors were told levels of nitrogen dioxide in parts of Oxford city centre now far exceed national air quality standards.

But bus companies last night warned the measures could force them to scrap scores of comparatively new buses – resulting in higher fares for passengers.

John Tanner, the city council’s executive member for a cleaner, greener Oxford, said: “This will lead to an improvement in air quality across Oxford. Declaring the city a Low Emission Zone will allow us to set standards and time scales. It is about time all the companies with buses going through the city centre pulled their weight. The LEZ will make sure they do.”

Stagecoach Managing Director Martin Sutton said: “We support efforts to bring about a cleaner city ut what is being proposed will entail the early scrapping of a large number of buses. It raises the question why the proposals do not cover other forms of transport. A disproportionate amount of the costs will potentially fall on bus passengers.”

A spokesman for Oxford Bus Company, which already has 42 buses, a third of its fleet, which meet the new standard, said: “We look forward to working with the council to achieve a deliverable LEZ in Oxford city centre.”

The plans will neither significantly reduce emissions nor will they affect any particular City zone.

Consider this:

  • The plans apply only to public service buses and coaches (not vans, minibuses, lorries, cars etc.)
  • No enforcement zone is defined - but if the Westgate plans go ahead then there will be more buses, and hence higher pollution levels, in the City Centre.
  • The LEZ only requires the bus companies to meet the Euro V emission standard - something that they are working towards anyway. From this year all new buses will have to meet Euro V anyway!
  • The LEZ will not take effect before December 31st 2013!

The Oxford Bus Company fleet is already 25% Euro V and has some buses with even lower emissions. They are planning to upgrade all their fleet to Euro V or better by 2014 anyway.

The papers relating to the LEZ can be found at: http://www.oxford.gov.uk/files/meetingdocs/82179/item%2013.pdf

The report admits that: "Levels of nitrogen dioxide in parts of Oxford city centre exceed national air quality objectives. In response to this, an Air Quality Management Area (AQMA) was designated in September 2001 covering part of the city centre."

I  understand that there will be a public meeting on April 23rd when this will be discussed and I intend to attend this meeting and report back to readers.

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Megabusplus is launched

 

Stagecoach Group Chief Executive Brian Souter has launched Britain’s first budget coach-rail service a week last Thursday in an event at London St Pancras station. The new, innovative budget coach and rail service will to help hard-pressed consumers beat the credit crunch, says Stagecoach.
 

Called Megabusplus.com, it will offers fares from £1, plus 50p booking fee, and the first services started running from Monday (30 March). The new brand and services are in addition to the existing Megabus.com and Megatrain.com operations.


The fast, integrated journey will be by comfortable coach and high-quality train, provided by Stagecoach-owned East Midlands Trains, running in and out of St Pancras.
 

Initially three coach links - Hull-Scunthorpe-Doncaster; Harrogate-York-Castleford and Huddersfield-Halifax-Bradford - run on weekdays with two services each. All coaches run direct to/from the newly-opened East Midlands Parkway station (near the M1, J24, at Castle Donington) where they connect with two trains (one morning, one afternoon) trains for the journey to/from London. A similar northbound service operates.

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Travel Line website by Nigel McBride

 

"As ever, I was very interested to read this week's update to the Oxford & Chilterns Bus Page. For someone from the Midlands, it always makes very interesting reading - indeed your account of your trip to Land's End by bus last year was one of the most enjoyable pieces of writing about buses I have come across in a long time.

My reason for writing is your reference to the Traveline website in the last two issues - and the importance of realising its 'regional' basis.

However, as you may have noticed, during the last few days the Traveline East Midlands and East Anglia regions have been upgraded to use the same system as the South East - and each seems to contain all the data for the other two. As a result, you can quite happily use Traveline South East for a trip from Glossop to Buxton or Traveline East Midlands for one from Margate to Broadstairs.

One thing I particularly like about this version of Traveline is the ability to search on timetables either by Operator or Town/Village. So if you want to know which services are operated by, say, Red Rose Travel or what routes serve Chipping Norton, the answers come up instantly with timetables and maps readily accessible. I particularly like the 'zoom and pan' route maps  - although the routing is sometimes a bit suspect!

As you say, its excellent for planning days out and arguably makes up for the lack of bus timetables in some areas.

Anyway, keep up the good work !
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Nigel, thank you, comments such as those above do make the effort of publishing the OCBP very worthwhile.

 

As you say, one must be aware of the regional nature of the site. This means that users must realise where the places they are visiting are located in the scheme of things. However Transport direct.info is a most useful tool except that as far as I can see one cannot select only bus travel. however a pleasant time can be spent planning various journeys.

http://www.transportdirect.info/

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Luton Town FC Success by Carl

 

Carl writes "Please find enclosed some pictures from my trip to Luton, and to Wembley where we eventually won 3-2 in the Johnston’s Paint Trophy final!

 

First picture is at Gloucester bus station, was on the 413 to London, second photo was the same coach at Victoria. We arrived 10 minutes early, despite the fact we pulled over on the M4 by Basingstoke to pick up passengers from a failed Irizar Century on the 040 service to London.

 

 

The third picture is of my Greenline coach which had to park at the Arriva stop due to there being a load of Greenline coaches there already.

 

 

I informed you a few weeks ago about the coaches/buses being laid on for Luton fans to Wembley. I have included 3 pictures of these coaches parked up. I saw at least 6 Greenline coaches (4 Luton, 2 Stevenage based), various coaches from Marshalls, Three Star Coaches and there were a couple of Travel London Tridents/ALX400's there too doing the collections in the Bedford/Westoning/Flitwick area. I also saw various single deck yellow buses, don’t know the operator but they were all on 58 plates with Come on You Hatters on the destination board, and LTFC on the side and rear.

 


Wembley Stadium coach park.

 

Overall, it was a very enjoyable day, made even better by the club winning at the best stadium in the country."

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Where are they now? A big surprise from Chris Maxfield

Malta provided some surprises for Chris Maxfield on a recent visit. I am sure he never expected to find ex Oxford double deckers being prepared for service on the island.

Oxford Bus had a batch of five Olympians (225-229) delivered in white and used on Park & Ride services in the city from 1988 until the end of the '90s when they were transferred to the then subsidiary Wycombe Bus Company. The five, which had been dual door when at Oxford were then converted to single door and spent a number of years trundling around Wycombe, one even gaining pseudo Thames Valley livery (229). Interestingly 225, 228 and 229 were last recorded with Arriva Southern Counties as 5829, 5881 and 5882 (229, 225, 228) based at Southend. 227, latterly at Wycombe is now with Woottens, more of which in the fleet news page and 226 has been scrapped. One wonders where 228 (Arriva SC 5882) is now?

So imagine the surprise Chris must had experienced, when on his recent visit to Malta, he found 225 and 229 under conversion to open top in a workshop on the island.



The first picture shows 225 and the second 229 where the red Thames Valley livery is showing through.
Pictures by Chris Maxfield.

 

The second surprise for Chris was a VR but not any Bristol VR! In 1973 the then City of Oxford Motor Services purchased nine Bristol VRTSL2 chassis fitted with Eastern Coachworks CH41/27F bodywork. These were delivered in dual purpose poppy red and white NBC livery and were intended for use on the London services. Indeed they did work on these routes from time to time and when the split between Oxford and South Midland came in July 1984, 106 found itself transferred to the new company. It was converted to open top in June 1986 and left the fleet in 1987 to a new life in Bath. Now it has resurfaced in Malta where a great deal of work is being done to give it another life on the island.

 


Pictures by Chris Maxfield.

 

I expect many of you will have pictures of these buses during their various lives and I look forward to receiving some.

 

Review of new National Coaches handbook

 

http://gb-bg.co.uk/

 

I received the latest National coaches handbook for review and can commend it fully to my readers.

 

I found the content most useful as it does include Scottish Citylink, Megabus and the Shearings Group in addition to the expect listing of all National Express operators. Also of great use was the full details of the National Express timetables with information on operators of each service.

 

Another useful feature was the inclusion of chassis and body numbers by registration as well as the index of registration, operator and fleet number for ease of locating a particular vehicle.

 

Priced at £11.00 I felt this was a reasonable price for a book full of up to date information and which also had the advantage of being ring bound for ease of use.

 

The web site above will take you to the order line for this publication.

 

Woottens celebrates its 10th anniversary

 

April 13th was a red letter day for Woottens Coaches of Chesham. It was on Tuesday 13th April that Michael Wootten launched his new venture and he writes to say "It all started with just two vehicles, W1 (UIB 4752 Leyland Tiger / Duple Laser 2) and W2 (SJI 8101 Volvo B10M / Jonckheere). We were based in Princes Risborough and moved to Chesham in August 1999. A great deal has changed since then and we've been very fortunate to have had the support of our many customers, staff and friends. We are all looking forward to the next ten years!"

 

http://michael-wootten.fotopic.net/

 

During the following ten years the company has grown and a major step was the opportunity to move from Princes Risborough to Chesham in November 1999 when the company took over the the Coach Yard, Lycrome Road. formerly the home of Rover Luxury Travel owned by the Dell family.

Operations Director, Michael Wootten,  said at the time that his firm had built its trade on school contracts, private hire and day excursions.  "We are interested in providing a quality service," he said.  "All of my life I have been interested in the coach business and I was an admirer of Rover for many years."

"When John Dell, the owner of Rover Luxury Travel, decided to retire, we spotted there was a gap in the market, so moving here really is a bit of a dream come true."

A development of some significance was in 2006 when the company invested in seven new Volvo B12B / Plaxton Panthers and one Volvo B7R / Plaxton Profile for delivery in April of that year. This was a major investment for the company which was only 7 years old at the time and these coaches continue to provide the front line service for this developing company.

 


Eight Volvos newly delivered in 2006

 

Growth continued and another significant step forward took place in April 2007 when after over 17 years of successful trading, the owners of High Wycombe-based Westways Coaches decided to retire. Woottens were delighted to acquire the business interests of this respected High Wycombe coach operator. This included the popular day excursions & holiday programme.

 

Not content with the level of development, significant though it had been Woottens moved forward once again with the introduction of a new bus service, Tiger Line, which was launched in June 2008 when Woottens announced the new local bus division called Tiger Line.

 

The Tiger Line brand is applied to a number of vehicles, which are involved in the provision of new local bus services. In conjunction with the launch of Tiger Line the launch of Tiger Line’s first local bus service was announced.

 

Tiger Line T1 was launched on Monday the 28th July 2008 and links Aylesbury to Hemel Hempstead via Stoke Mandeville, Wendover, Great Missenden and Chesham. Utilising a fleet of dual purpose buses and a team of dedicated drivers, the service is designed to meet the needs of local people travelling across North East Bucks providing new links in areas where public transport has been absent for many years.

 

From it early days and after an increased service to cater for peak hour users proved less than satisfactory, the service has now settled down to a Monday-Friday schedule leaving both termini at the same times, making it easy to remember service details. These changes were implemented in April 2009

 

The vehicles used offer new levels of comfort to passengers, with improved leg room, coach style seats, seatbelts, panoramic windows and natural ventilation. Working in conjunction with Buckinghamshire County Council Tiger Line T1 is included in the county’s new real time passenger information system, providing both web based and SMS information.

 

A further development in April 2009 is the gaining of a new contract to provide services as mentioned in the schedule hereunder on the 321 Princes Risboro - High Wycombe route which will bring an old friend into the Eden Bus Station in High Wycombe. This will be Leyland Olympian E227CFC. This bus is presently away for some refurbishment work and will be ready for the start of the new service on 20th April 2009.

 

Service 106 & 321 Timetable  Longwick - Princes Risborough - High Wycombe

           
 

 

 

Sch

Sch

NSch

 

 

 

Nwed

Wed

 

 

106

106

321

321

321

Longwick, Walkers Road

 

09.00

 

 

 

Monks Risborough, Place Farm Way

 

09.05

 

 

 

Princes Risborough, The Avenue

 

09.09

 

 

 

Princes Risborough, Woodfield Road

 

09.12

 

 

 

Princes Risborough, Market Square

07.30

09.17

15.05

16.05

15.05

Princes Risborough School, Arrive

 

 

15.07

16.07

 

Princes Risborough School, Depart

 

 

15.15

16.15

 

Saunderton, The Rose & Crown

07.35

09.22

15.20

16.20

15.10

Bradenham, The Red Lion

07.39

09.27

15.24

16.24

15.14

West Wycombe Road/Beechwood Road

07.42

09.32

15.27

16.27

15.17

West Wycombe Road, Downley Turn

07.45

09.36

15.30

16.30

15.20

High Wycombe, The Pastures

 

 

 

 

 

West Wycombe Road/Desborough Park Road

07.47

09.39

15.32

16.32

15.22

High Wycombe, Bus Station

07.50

09.45

15.37

16.37

15.27

           
 

Sch

NSch

 

   
 

321

321

106

   

High Wycombe, Bus Station

08.00

08.00

14.30

   

West Wycombe Road/Desborough Park Road

08.03

08.03

14.33

   

High Wycombe, The Pastures

 

 

 

   

West Wycombe Road, Downley Turn

08.07

08.07

14.37

   

West Wycombe Road/Beechwood Road

08.11

08.11

14.41

   

Bradenham, The Red Lion

08.15

08.15

14.45

   

Saunderton, The Rose & Crown

08.20

08.20

14.50

   

Princes Risborough School, Arrive

08.25

 

 

   

Princes Risborough School, Depart

08.30

 

 

   

Princes Risborough, Market Square

08.35

08.25

14.55

   

Princes Risborough, Woodfield Road

 

 

 

   

Princes Risborough, The Avenue

 

 

 

   

Monks Risborough, Place Farm Way

 

 

 

   

Longwick, Walkers Road

 

 

 

   

 

This year of the tenth anniversary saw another development in the introduction of a refreshed livery and a picture of Volvo B10M / Plaxton Premiere W38 HSV 673 (R551 TKV), which has returned from refurbishment and is the first coach in the revised Woottens livery.

 

 

Ex-Stagecoach East Scotland Leyland Tiger / Alexander TE PES 463Y (BMS 512Y) has been refurbished to become W63. This ex-Alexander Midland Leyland Tiger was previously with Strathtay and has been fitted with 3+2 seating & seatbelts. The vehicle is now in a yellow 'School Coach' livery for its new role.

 

 

Now Woottens, especially Michael, are looking forward to the next ten years. For more information you can refer to the company's excellent web site which includes a full fleet list and many pictures.

 

http://www.coach4hire.co.uk/ 

 

Trip to Oxford by Stephen Le Bras.

 

Today, I took the train from Windsor to Oxford via Slough. It was a difficult day for photography as the sun when out was in the wrong place. However, the sun went behind a cloud and I did get some good results.

 

Route 7 to Kidlington produced 22761-70. However, it is the every day situations which interest me e.g.
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1. The Stagecoach controller going over to tell a driver on route 3 to change his blind from N3 to 3.

2. A Stagecoach banksman at Gloucester Green stopping to remind the driver of London bound 50120 of the marches in London and "just be vigilant".

3. When I arrived at GG, a sludge gulper (as we used to call them) turned up. I moved back to the road junction but the driver was not about to clear a gully and left fairly soon.

 

In the coach park, I found the Belarus based Cityliner which had been in Windsor the day before.

 

Geoff Cunliffe visits Oxford

 

For the first time in over six months, Margaret and I returned to Oxford on Wednesday 1st. April. We came in, as has become our custom, from Water Eaton on the 11am service in green Citaro 824. It is a surprisingly long ride (11.15 by the time we reached Debenhams) and, as we picked up a pram (with driver!) at Summertown, we experienced the kneeling capabilities of the Citaro chassis. Why didn’t we use the bus lane on the Banbury Road?

 

Some things don’t change and it was nice to see that at least one of the Thames Transit Enviro 200s, 157 OU57FHA, is still in Oxford Science Park livery featuring parts of the Periodic Table. It appeals to a one-time chemist! Also the Oxford Tramways historic liveried Wright Renown bodied Volvo B10BLE 817 is still so presented, although some of its freshness seemed to have faded somewhat.

 

But there were new things - I seemed to have somehow missed the Arriva Enviro 400s on the 280 to Aylesbury. They are extremely smart.

 

Then there are the Contravision catastrophes, Stagecoach 22932/3, S932/3 CFC. I suppose there are some attractive Contravision schemes but these, for Southern Electric extolling their Making More Energy from Wind and Water, don’t come into that category

 

 

Stagecoach’s 1998 ALX300-bodied MAN 22932 in Castle Street.

 

On the other hand, sister vehicle fleet liveried 22930 looked very smart leaving Queen Street for Wantage on the X30

 

 

Stagecoach 22930 at Carfax

 

The traffic problems in the centre of the city seem to be as bad as ever. It is true that there seem to be slightly fewer cyclists riding down Queen Street - has somewhat had a long overdue purge? - but plenty still do,- in both directions. Similarly, nothing appears to have been done to stop white van man parking wherever he wishes with a total disregard to the inconvenience caused.

 

Standing at Carfax watching the world go by, it seems hard to believe the Neoplan Tubes are five years old and Stagecoach must be considering replacements. True it is a pretty old design, but they are immaculately presented. No doubt they are high mileage and I understand the gearboxes have not been too satisfactory.

 

Why do the Stagecoach Enviro 300s not have the model identification on their rear panels? 200s and 400s do. Is it a Stagecoach special feature?

 

 

Rear of new Stagecoach Enviro 300 bodied MAN 22771 with no model identification below the owner’s vinyl.

 

We had a ride out to Thornhill to see the new(ish) facilities there. It was a day when there were severe delays on the A40 and I was glad we’d used Water Eaton rather than Pear Tree. However that couldn’t have been the cause for the 400 to be significantly disrupted. We had a long wait for a vehicle running eastwards and then were delayed by the roadworks at Headington. The new Thornhill looked impressive but that is not to say that people who use it find it so. Perhaps I am just cynical of planners! The return journey ran straight through the roadworks, but the 400 service generally still seemed to be erratic some hours afterwards.

 

I was due to rendezvous with our Editor for the 4.20pm departure on the 737 for Stansted. Unfortunately he was late getting to The Green due to a stuck heater causing its own version of a greenhouse effect!  Nonetheless, when he arrived, he loaded the baggage (how about a weight limit like some councils impose on Wheelie Bins?), sorted our an incorrect advance booking and departed just twenty minutes late.

 

 

The 4.20pm 737 departure for Stansted Airport, National Express liveried 59213, a Caetano Levante bodied Scania, leaving Gloucester Green, driven by our Editor.

 

Then it was back to Water Eaton with only a short delay at the Banbury Road roundabout on the A40. Would this have been the last time I could see buses running through Queen Street? We’ll have to wait and see.

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Answer to a recent question from John Hammond.

The answer was included in the historical section in the last issue but in case readers missed this, I am including it below.

From Steve Annells on the stop "City Vicar"


 

"As one who grew up in Drayton (albeit the Newtown end), I can throw some limited light on the City Vicar bus stop.  It's named after a house in Steventon Road, which was named 'Citivica' by its owner.  I have heard an explanation of the name which with a bit of research on Google has proven to be completely false.

The stop has been named 'City Vicar' for at least forty years, probably more, but you'd have to be local and of a certain age to use that name for it.  In the same way, I don't know how many people who live at the north end of Drayton would still refer to it as Newtown, since it's over fifty years since it was the new end of the village."

Pictureview & seen in Oxford


Andrew Morgan sent this picture of a Citaro bendi bus on tow by Liverpool St in London.


I had not seen this operator before whose coach passed through Stansted last week. M Crowe.


Hamilton Coaches of Uxbridge are often used on National Express work but on this occasion this Jonckheere Volvo was on a private job at Stansted.
The livery is interesting as each coach is white, useful when resale time comes along but each rear is a different colour.  M Crowe.


Lewis of Greenwich were pictured in a recent issue with ex Cambridge Coach/NEx V324 at Luton. They also have V325 as seen at Stansted last week.
This is re-registered LEW15 W. This coach often used to pass through Wycombe to Oxford on the 75, later 757 and now 737 service. Picture by Malcolm Crowe.


Latest additions to the London Big Bus fleet. Pictures by Gavin Francis.


Now that is a big bus, sorry coach. A double deck Setra seen in Oxpens coach park by Gavin Francis.

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