History
Issue 105

For this issue we have a few interesting items starting with one on Thames Transit.

Thames Transit – the early years by Matt Cooper

I have attached a series of Thames Transit pictures from various years and ownership of the Company.  It was 30 years ago this year since the Company was established in Oxford by Harry Blundred and co. and 20 years since the sale of the operation to Stagecoach. 

Although 'starting from scratch' in Oxford in 1987 TT quickly built up a network of city cervices and the infamous Oxford Tube service to London.  Based on Harry Blundred's high frequency minibus theory the routes were also 'hail & ride' so attractive for marketing 'door to door service.  At this time one was able to drive the minibuses on a car licence so recruitment was easier and quicker.  The South Midland operations which were at one time part of COMS were acquired in 1988 giving a substantial rural network to tie in with that of the city.  A mix of more traditional and conventional ex NBC vehicles were acquired but in a relatively short space of time these were replaced with minibuses.  The Bicester routes were operated with larger vehicles (Plaxton Derwent bodied Leyland Tigers) and open topped elderly vehicles were used during summer seasons on the Blenheim Palace service. 

By the mid 1990s the Dennis Dart (most with dual door configuration) was the popular replacement for TT to the early Ford Transit minibuses.  These featured individual route branding.  Harry Blundred's theory was passengers would remember a route name more than a route number.  It also gave a good local feel to the services.  A handful of unbranded float vehicles were available also. 

In a surprise move being as the Company had just had very public oriented 10th year celebrations in 1997, the whole of the Transit Group was sold to Stagecoach.  The 'stripes' appeared soon afterwards and new vehicle deliveries were to Stagecoach Group standard.  This included the introduction of double deckers to city routes.  The photos I have included cover a range of vehicle types, city and Tube operations and different eras. 

TT1 - One of a trio of Plaxton Verde bodied Dennis Lance vehicles used on out of city routes, mainly the Woodstock corridor.  This one is 901.

TT2 -  L713 JUD is in the second Blackbird Flyer livery introduced shortly before Stagecoach took over.  This was a member of the original Plaxton Pointer bodied Dennis Dart batch from 1993.  OBC introduced dual doored Darts in 1994 but with Marshall bodywork.  Seen at Carfax about to head to Blackbird Leys, this was the original route introduced by TT in 1987.

TT3 -  M87 WBW is branded for the 'City Cavalier' (Cutteslowe to Barton)  Others were similarly branded but with the legend 'Kidlington Cavalier' for the Kidlington part of the route.  I believe on of this batch is now in preservation.

TT4 - M95 WBW is loading at St. Giles on the 'City Circle' routes.  These made their way out to John Radcliffe Hospital and back, 10 clockwise 10A anti-clockwise.  The branding was Carousel, ironically it wasn't too long after this photo was taken in 1997 that the name would be used on another local start up operation in High Wycombe!

SOX1 - Double deckers out in force on the Cowley Road!  Outside the old COMS depot two of their Volvo B10Bs are in hot pursuit!  Stagecoach were specifying double door low height Alexander RL bodied Volvo Olympians at this time also to the London operations.  The Oxford batch would be converted to single door for onward use within the group in later years.

SOX2 - The old and new order in 1997 at Carfax.  Stagecoach stripes heading to Abingdon whilst a former 'Cavalier' now unbranded operates the Blackbird Leys route.

SOX9 & SOX3 - Stagecoach Oxford were the first operator of low floor vehicles in the City.  These were of 'standard' Alexander ALX200 Dart SLF combination and carried the 'Lo-Liner' branding in use at the time.  The term 'Lo-Liner' was used in a number of locations by passengers and staff alike to describe generically the types of vehicles in use at the time.  MAN were in favour with Stagecoach then and the S-registered batch worked in Oxford for many years, with route branding and colouring for the major city services.  This one (932) at George Street was heading for Kidlington and was an unbranded 'float' vehicle.

 

SOX4 - Stagecoach Oxford ran the 4 battery powered Optare Metroriders on what was route 5 the 'City Circuit'  OBC had this for the majority of its operation and each vehicle was 'charged up' by a plug in unit at the railway station.

 

SOX5/6 - This a more recent standard for Stagecoach.  MAN still in use but on the new Enviro body heading for Kidlington.  The Scania chassis was not common in the Group until a trial batch inn 2008 arrived at Oxford.  Stagecoach must have liked what was on offer as they are still receiving this combination today!  This is the old layout at Bicester Bus Station, and vehicles on offer today are 'Gold' standard.  The 'X5' coach about to overtake is of the old order too and since then new 2 axle and now 3 axle Volvos are in use on the service.  Bringing much needed comfort and style lacking when this photo was taken.

 

SOX 7 - Alexander demonstrator in use with Stagecoach Oxford again at the old Bicester Bus Station.  This smart vehicle was also used by OBC I believe.

 

SOX 8 - New minibus era for Oxford!  Older Alexander AM types were also used at this time but the ALX100 bodied Varios were a smart batch used by Oxford.  Here 377 is pausing at Lechlade on Sunday route 7 to Swindon.  I believe this batch saw further service in Kent.

TUBE 1 - Tube selection!  An excellent book documenting the history of this service is available written by well known author Malcolm Crowe!  Here are a selection of vehicles which were used on the service over the years.  This Jonckheere Deauville batch always looked very smart.  Here coach 5 (L212 GJO) waits at George Street for space to become available at Gloucester Green.  As with TT the fleet numbers bore no resemblance to registration numbers.  The gold paint was for the 10th anniversary celebrations of the route.  This coach went on for further service with well respected local operator Motts Travel. I had this image put on a t-shirt by Snappy Snaps at the time!  The boy gricer!

TUBE 2 -  First round of complete Oxford Tube fleet replacement came in 1999 with the MAN/Jonckheere Mistrals.  This livery was s nice take on the Stagecoach stripes of the time.  Here a trio are seen at the London end of the route.

TUBE 3 & TUBE 4 - The following two generations!  2004 saw the Neoplan batch take over.  This type was common with Stagecoach from an early time, being used on the Scotland to London services when Stagecoach of Perth would have got the response "who?"  Megabus operations also received this type of vehicle at this time too.  In 2009 the Van Hool is in fashion, and remains so but in a latter replacement batch.

 

TUBE 5 - Looking a little tired as many of the single deck Tubes did in the end, 33 loads at Headington while demo Dennis Lance P452 BPH) passes heading for Barton.  The bus was in use by OBC but has also been with TT.

 

TUBE 6 - Tube 47 has a day out in Stratford on Avon operating the X50 service, summer 2000.

Ex TT1 - Fleet transfers occurred within Stagecoach from early on.  The dual door batch which originated with TT passed to East London who exchanged a single door batch to Oxford.  Seen at Gale Street, Dagenham two ex Oxford Darts work routes 45 and 62.  Their livery was uninspiring but complied whole heartedly with the London buses must be red rule which was being applied.  Following pressure from campaigners in London who were seeing all sorts of different coloured buses appearing in central London!

Ex TT2 - Seen at Twickenham at a Northampton Saints vs London Irish rugby match in 2002 this pair were once part of the Tube fleet.  Now part of East London's private hire fleet this body style is very smart, the livery could have done with a little something else!

 

Now we have a further contribution from Nigel Lukowski .

FANFARES AND FORDS

Another small selection, comprising former Southdown Leyland Tiger Cubs with Weymann 'Fanfare' coachwork and a trio of Fords covering both bus and coach use.  Thanks to Matt Cooper for the additional detail on previous views, always appreciated.

XUF 141  - 
The first of the former Southdown examples, XUF 141 was Southdown's 1141, a PSUC1/2 new in 1960 and registered for that summer season and used on the Southdown company's Beacon Tours programme.  Sold in 1973 to Heyfordian via the dealer Frank Cowley and still in use when this August 1980 view was taken at Soulden, notably still in Southdown green.  The Fanfare was introduced by Weymann, better known for bus bodies, in the mid-1950's and achieved modest success, mainly with B.E.T. fleets.  XUF 141 has fortunately survived into preservation, see photo below.

XUF 142  -
Also still in Southdown green, XUF 142 (Southdown 1142) has a history very similar to 1142, also passing to Heyfordian in 1973.  However this example was sold in 1979 and seen here in the care of Cherwell Transport, despite evidence of rally appearances in the nearside front screen this coach was scrapped in 1983.  Another August 1980 view, at I believe Wiggington Heath, near Banbury.

XUF 144  -
Looking rather down at heal and in the colours of Rainbow of Westbury (Bucks), XUF 144 (Southdown 1144) was again new in 1960, again with Heyfordian (1973 to 1979) before Rainbow (1979-1980) and here just acquired by Heritage of Banbury for preservation. Unfortunately another loss as this coach was believed scrapped in the mid-1990's. The location is again Wiggington Heath in August 1980.

XUF141 and NCY 626  -
Here is XUF 141 in all its restored glory at the 2016 Brooklands Rally.  Seen alongside the only other surviving Fanfare, former South Wales AEC Reliance NCY 626 which shows a slightly more ambitious tour destination than that offered by XUF 141 alongside!

TAP 184J and CTM 415D  -
Turning to Fords, these two are in the yard of Grayline of Bicester, again in August 1980.  Not sure on the chassis designation of these two I'm afraid.

NWL 660M  -
Oxford/South Midland was one of a number of NBC to operate light-weight Ford buses.  This one was Oxford's 660 and with Willowbrook bodywork but by the time of this May 1982 view sold and being used as a school bus at RAF Bicester.

WWL 506R
Slightly newer and still in Oxford/South Midland service is fleet number 669, seen on service 203 by the Carfax Tower in August 1980. 669 has Duple Dominant bus body, a design I always found quite attractive.

More on COMS from Nigel Lukowski

Returning to the centre of the city and the NBC Oxford South Midland fleet in August 1980...

MJO 390H and MJO 391H are of course two examples of the Northern Counties bodied Daimler Fleetlines that Oxford turned to after the end of double deck production by AEC.  These H-reg examples were in fact from the second batch of 1979/80 and are seen at the end of the A420 High Street.

 

MLH 352L, another Daimler Fleetline, an MCW former DMS purchased from London Transport in 1979.  Prominent is the Park & Ride wording, plus useful service details.  I'm less sure on Baynes, some sort of DIY store judging by the characters depicted, taken close to the Oxford Museum.

SWL 512J, fleet number 51 and also on a Park & Ride service is a slightly older AEC Reliance with Willowbrook bodywork in Cornmarket Street.

TBW 451P, a pretty much standard Bristol VRT/ECW passes the Carfax Tower on route to Rose Hill.  The advert for Motorworld pretty clear too!

TFC 406K  -  Lastly, and again passing the museum is Alexander bodied Daimler Fleetline dating from 1971.  A body style not perhaps to everyone's taste but certainly welcome variety in some fleets, I did tend to seek out these Oxford ones and Leyland Atlanteans with the same body with Devon General/Western National.

Finally one for the road !

I now have an item which readers may answer.

What number was the service Chiltern Queens used to run which served Herschell Crescent?

Alexander R. P. Edwards

John Bristow writes "Whilst going through my old photos I came across this picture, which you might find of interest. It was taken in January 1970 and shows how miserable some of these places were in the ‘good old days’.


Frogmoor Terminus, High Wycombe in January 1970 by John Bristow.
Intake of breath from all Bristol lovers!!

... and the attached shot of interest. It shows a line up of independent stage vehicles in Banbury on an August Saturday in 1970. I wonder how many of these companies are still running stage services!


Banbury line up of private operator's coaches in August 1970 by John Bristow.

I thought that this pic has a slight Oxford-Chiltern connection. it shows an ex Reading Sunbeam trolleybus in use by Teesside Municipal Transport at North Ormesby on 16 October 1970.

Finally a nice little puzzle from a lady, Janet Croft, who asks "Do you know when and where this picture was taken?

Janet Croft writes " I tried also to identify the Queen's Head but without any exact success. I also tried to read the destination plaque but couldn't manage this either.

I conclude that this is very like the buses that my father and my uncle drove in the late 40s & early 50s. I remember day trips to Cleethorpes in particular & I have a photo of my dad in his driver's overall wearing the 'Enterprise Motors' (based in Scunthorpe, Lincs) badge."

With thanks to all contributors.

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