Spottings & Jottings
Issue nr 52 - November 25th 2011
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The days pass by and we are now getting to winter proper. foggy days and much colder nights. I wonder if it will snow this year as in the past two?
New buses continue to enter service in quite large numbers including further National Express Levante models, replacement double deck buses in London for the phased withdrawal of the bendi buses and just last week the arrival of the first of the new Scania/E400 Gold buses for the S5 route in Oxfordshire plus some Enviro 200s for Banbury depot for use on the S4 and 500.
Some details are also emerging about a new fleet of coaches for Oxford Bus and one has been seen at the Scarborough works of Plaxtons. However as the company has not released any information I am unable to give further news in this matter.
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Oxfordshire Bus Enthusiasts Society
The Oxfordshire Bus Enthusiasts Society was formed in June 2010 and aims to
provide an informal monthly social meeting in Oxford for those with an
interest in buses. Meetings are normally held on the 3rd Tuesday of each month
and normally take the form of a picture show with local and guest
speakers. A small charge is made to cover the cost of hiring the function
room and this is usually around £1 for members per meeting depending on numbers.
For non-members a charge of £2 per head is made.
Next meeting:
13th December – Buses in selected British towns - by John LawMeetings are held in the upstairs function room at:
The Folly Bridge Inn
38 Abingdon Road
Oxford
OX1 4PD
Some limited parking at the back of the pub, also close to bus stops (frequent X3/X13 or 35 routes stop outside)
or a short walk from Oxford City Centre - For directions click HERE
Upcoming Meetings in
2012
·
17th January West Midlands
survivors - by Simon Hewings
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21st Feb Subject
·
20th March Bristol Omnibus
“the green years” – by Mike Walker
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17th April Society
·
15th May Working on the buses
– by Martin Roberts
·
19th June Clydeside Scottish
‘we tried to run a bus company’ – by George Watson
·
17th July
Evening Outing, details TBC
A detailed programme of meetings can be found at the following link and we hope many of you will attend future meetings.
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The level of contribution to this page by readers is excellent! Thank you.
Malcolm Crowe - Editor - OCBP - November 25th 2011.
Spottings
Observations and pictures
On visiting Hemel garage last Monday I noticed a
DAF ex Garston gas bus that looks like its about to be removed for disposal.
Also I noticed either 3176 or 3177 with, I think, a red painted line around
so possibly for disposal too. The bus in question has its windscreen missing
and also the front registration plate appears to be missing. Can anyone
confirm if its 3176 or 3177 ?
Also I have a appeal to all your readers:
APPEAL:
Does anyone have any photos of London
buses (Enviro 400 or 200) they can email to me for my own personal photo
album? If so please email them to:
Bob Morley of Newbury Transport Group
On a clear autumn day the 12.35hrs RH service 19 to Carterton
stands alongside the 13.05hrs Bampton to Oxford service 18 in Bampton Square
on Thursday, November 17.
By the way
OCBP is an excellent web-site.
A few of the pictures taken whilst working the 737 to Stansted.
New E300 for Meteor Parking for Hilton Hotel run.
Brand new with only 500mls on the clock. Graphics to be applied later.
Brian Butler
(Stoke Mandeville)
Solo changes: 2418 d/l to Luton: 2430 Luton to Wycombe: 3086 Hemel to Luton, however quite soon after 2430 left Wycombe (see below)
Inroads in earnest have started into the Scania ELC buses with 3146, 3161 withdrawn at Wycombe: 3149, 3167, 3168, 3170 withdrawn at Luton: 3152 withdrawn at Aylesbury: 3173 Hemel to Luton: 3180 Stevenage to Wycombe: 3195 withdrawn at Luton: 3197 Aylesbury to Luton: 3198, 3199 withdrawn at Luton: 3203 withdrawn at Wycombe.
Other transfers are 3219 Stevenage to Hemel: 3307 to 3310 Stevenage to Wycombe: 3457, 3458 Stevenage to Wycombe.
Another bus delicensed is Volvo 3849, seemingly withdrawn at Wycombe.
Tridents have moved as follows, 5423 Ware to
withdrawn at Luton: 5427, 5428 Ware to Luton: 5429, 5447 Ware to Aylesbury:
5443 Ware to d/l at Luton.
Wycombe based
buses as 5147, Olympian 5148 has also lost its branding for Hemel route 5/6
and has been repainted into Inter Urban livery. It also has an all over rear
ad for Wycombe Wanderers/Wasps (as has 5147).
Scania 3162 is
now parked up with the withdrawn buses, so I guess its running days are
over. 3163 was parked there but has now gone and so has already withdrawn
3161. So, none of that batch of Scanias are left running. Of the other
Scanias, 3202 was parked at the depot - maybe withdrawn? and I've not seen
3201 for a while. The withdrawal of those will leave no Scanias in
Wycombe.
All three Blue
Route 32 branded buses are now withdrawn and are all conveniently parked
together at Cressex. Northern Counties Paladin bodied 3203 sits between East
Lancs European examples 3146 and 3162. (picture attached taken 6th Nov)
Dart 3824
(N524 MJO) which was reported as delicenced after an arson attack, is back.
I saw it working as a staff bus today (14th Nov). This bus had a troubled
start to life. I seem to remember when it was new, back in the mid 1990s, it
was involved in an accident, and very shortly after repair it was stolen
from Wycombe bus station and suffered more damage - I may have got those two
events the wrong way round, as the memory fades, but I do remember that it
was 3824!
Optare 2430
has been replaced in Wycombe by 2438 (X419 BBD). Both originated from Milton
Keynes.
Adam Green
Gavin Francis has contributed a number of pictures of Arriva buses in our area.
Arriva 3180 Staff Bus Wycombe 081111 G Francis
Arriva 3219 r 52 Wycombe 081111 G Francis
Arriva 3226 r 32 Wycombe 081111 G Francis
Arriva 3458 r 340 Stokenchurch 251111 G Francis
Arriva 3482 r H1 Wycombe 081111 G Francis
Arriva 3532 r 40 Stokenchurch 181111 G Francis
Arriva 3701 r 31 Wycombe 081111 G Francis
Arriva 5150 r 340 Stokenchurch 131111 G Francis
Arriva 5162 Wycombe Bus Stn nsr 081111 G Francis
Your Editor also took a umber of pictures during the past weeks.
Arriva 2401 r 40 Stokenchurch 011111 M Crowe
Arriva 3852 r 37 Wycombe 011111 M Crowe
Arriva 5141 Wycombe 011111 M Crowe
And a last one from Richard Sharman - Arriva
3484 r 16 Bicester Bure Place 051111
This route is to finish serving Bicester which
will only see buses from Arriva on service 18.
Nigel Peach writes
"I mentioned a few weeks ago that I thought P232AAP and P236AAP had been
withdrawn. However, 232 is still working but I don't think 236 has moved
form the back of the yard for a while now.
Carousel BL21 MP56BUS r 2A Stokenchurch 021111 G Francis - We have seen this
bus a few times now in Stokenhurch.
Carousel DPL423 r35 Wycombe 081111 G Francis
Carousel EVO12 AE59AWH Wycombe 011111 M Crowe - I am surprised that this
vehicle has no Carousel fleet names!!
There are a large number of new Caetano Levantes plus some Van Hool coaches as our report shows.
Kings Ferry fleet
Also new here are VIP 8 (YT11 LPX) and VIP10
(YT61 GRF) Scania K400EB / Irizar i5.
Kings Ferry: Further new Volvo B9R / Caetano Levantes with C53FLT layout are 5.2 FJ11 RAX and 5.3 FJ11 RBF, both in standard company livery.
Gavin Francis pictured
FJ11RAU both inside and outside at Stansted.
NEx Kings Ferry FJ11RAX r A6 Stansted 071111 G
Francis
NEx Kings Ferry FJ10EZP r 007 VCS 031111 G
Francis - This has one return working per day on this service.
NEx Kings Ferry FJ60KUO Stansted Airport 041111
G Francis
Galloway's of Mendlesham have taken delivery of four Volvo B9R / Caetano Levante C48FLT for operation on new route 250,. They are:
FJ61 EVN
FJ61 EVP
FJ61 EVT
FJ61 EVU
NEx Galloways FJ61EVN at VCS 111111 G Francis
FJ61 EVW is with Lucketts.
Wilts & Dorset also have a new one - FJ61 EVX
It was working the London-Salisbury service on
November 23rd 2011.
"New
Levante (FJ61EWN) for Chalfont Line. I believe they have two of them.
NEx Chalfont WA61AKU r 509 VCS 151111 G Francis
NEx Chalfont WA61AKP nsr r 509 VCS 151111 G Francis
NEx Chalfont WA61AKP nsr r 509 VCS 231111 M Crowe. The coach is being washed
in Sammy's.
NEx Bournemouth Transport 333 - FJ61 EWD r 035 VCS 231111 M Crowe
Jay Houlden
OX 215 r 3 Bonn Sq OXF 061111 G Francis
Red Line
Red Line Y184RCR r 333 Wycombe 081111 G Francis
Red Rose
Red Rose N744XDV ex HKG n SC r 104 Wycombe 081111 G Francis
Red Rose YX08HBZ r 275 Stokenchurch 181111 G Francis
I understand that from January 2012 the 275 service, (County supported), will operate via Bledlow Ridge and Chinnor and no longer serve Stokenchurch. The 104, 105 and 106 services will be withdrawn.
I think the loss of a local bus service to Oxford will hit the senior citizens rather hard. I wonder what thought had been given to that?
Ex Stagecoach buses find a new home by T Maxwell
D & E Coaches, Inverness P853GND at Aviemore
151111 T Maxwell
D & E Coaches, Inverness P855GND at Aviemore
151111 T Maxwell
The double decks below are ex Dublin Bus via Ensign Dealer and not as Stagecoach as at first thought.
D & E Coaches, Inverness R340LHK at Aviemore
151111 T Maxwell
D & E Coaches, Inverness R342LHK at Aviemore
151111 T Maxwell
Oxford
Jay Houlden
SCO 15752 and 15753 Horspath 221111 M Crowe
The upper deck interior showing the high quality
of finish on these Gold buses.
Details of the new buses are:
15752
OU61 AVF
15753
0U61 AVG
15754
0U61 AVJ
15755
OU61 AVK
15756
OU61 AVL
15757
OU61 AVM
15758
OU61 AVN
15759
OU61 AVO
15760
OU61 AVP
15761
OU61 AVR
15762
OU61 AVT
SCO 36450 and 36452 Horspath 221111 M Crowe
36450 OU61 AUX
36452 OU61 AVB
Views forward and to the rear on 36452.
Other pictures of SC Oxford.
SCO 22054 osr Recruitalicious super rear 071111 G Francis
SCO 34437 r S4 Oxford 151111 G Francis
East
SCE 52644 r 99 Luton Airport 231111 G Francis -
this coach was once tried for suitability at Oxford.
Seen by Richard Sharman in Bicester, a bus somewhat off its regular route.
Manchester/Midlands
One time Oxford Olympian transferred to SC
Midlands from SC Manchester is Volvo Olympian 16511 (R511 UWL),
Merseyside
A local sources reports that the demonstrator which was on loan for six weeks has been returned to M A N. See the picture below.
MAN Ecoity demo WX61FXO at SC Liverpool 281011 L Burton
The first of the Gold Scanias for Swindon are around and one can be seen at the following link. It is of 15763.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gcbp/6371301059/in/photostream/
My contact at
Dawsons advises that ex Tube Skyliner 50123 OX04 BZS, has found it's
way back to Dawson Rentals at Hellaby, via Milton Keynes, ( ex Regal ) and
is now being prepared for McEwens, Mansfield.
It's currently
at Coopers, Killamarsh, for inspection.
This is the
one that was re-trimmed, for Yellow Star, Haverhill, just prior to them
going under, then it went to Classic, Anfield Plain.
Dawson Rentals ex Tube 50123 OX04BZS nsf at Grayline Bicester 160411 R
Sharman
Dawson Rentals ex Tube 50123 OX04BZS at Grayline Bicester 160411 R Sharman.
The coach on the right is also an ex Tube!
The interior shot is OX04 BZS, which was re-trimmed
for Yellow Star, Haverhill.
It still awaits collection by McEwens, Mansfield,
along with a Plaxton Cheetah, but there appears to be money probs !
They other Skyliner had just been dug out, whilst
sorting the yard out again.
Saw OX04 BZT, the other day, ( Thursday), near Stanstead, M11 S bound, looked very well.
Our friend Peverel has sent a number of pictures of ex Tube coaches which are I think rather interesting.
Now with Omega, 50105, 50109 & 50115 all seen at Oxpens.
50112 now with B M Coaches, and as with its sister, painted black.
Ex 50047 with R H and working the 700 service in June 2010.
Newly arrived Volvo B9Rs with Plaxton Panther 2 bodywork, so far unbranded, are allocated to Rugby.
53636 | KX61 GDU | Volvo B9R C49Ft | RY | New for Megabus |
53637 | KX61 GDV | Volvo B9R C49Ft | RY | New for Megabus |
53638 | KX61 GDY | Volvo B9R C49Ft | RY | New for Megabus |
53639 | KX61 GDZ | Volvo B9R C49Ft | RY | New for Megabus |
53641 | KX61 GEK | Volvo B9R C49Ft | RY | New for Megabus |
53642 | KX61 GEU | Volvo B9R C49Ft | RY | New for Megabus |
53643 | KX61 GEY | Volvo B9R C49Ft | RY | New for Megabus |
53644 | KX61 GFA | Volvo B9R C49Ft | RY | New for Megabus |
53645 | KX61 GFE | Volvo B9R C49Ft | RY | New for Megabus |
At least one entered service in October with 53636 appearing in London VCS on October 18th 2011.
SC Megabus 53637 VCS 081111 M Crowe. 53636 and 53638 are also in service
now.
Edinburgh Coachlines Volvo in London.
Much discussion has been ensuing following my picture of an Edinburgh Coachlines Volvo in London. (last issue). This was an 11 plate vehicle and I asked the question being pleased to receive a number of answers.
Andy Burbidge
800 |
BX11 GVU |
Volvo B9R 12 metre |
Plaxton Panther |
C49FT |
801 |
BX11 GVV |
Volvo B9R 12 metre |
Plaxton Panther |
C49FT |
802 |
BX11 GVW |
Volvo B9R 12 metre |
Plaxton Panther |
C49FT |
803 |
BX11 GVY |
Volvo B9R 12 metre |
Plaxton Panther |
C49FT |
They are not apparently to Stagecoach specification but acquired from dealer stock."
Edinburgh Coachlines BX11 GVY taken at Lathalmond
(the Scottish Vintage Vehicle Museum open day) on 21 Aug 2011.
Graeme of Dundee Bus forum adds
"I
can only guess that Stagecoach must have asked ECL to dup the M20 to London
due to not
Hamilton ML61CXF new Neoplan on Megabus M11 111111 M Crowe
SCW 52654 on Megabus duties in London 081111 M Crowe
NAT Megabus H6KFJ ex Veolia FJ08KMK r M7 Victoria 121111 G Francis
Weaveaway (Newbury)
Two new Bovas arrived here at the beginning of the month and are registered
WA61AJX and WA61AKX. See the picture in the last issue.
The order for four such vehicles has been reduced to just the two mentioned
here.
Woottens
It is rather sad to see
this initiative
So get out with your cameras to take some last shots of Tiger Lines' distinctive vehicles.
Blackpool November
6th by Geoff Cunliffe
Today was such
a nice one, I couldn’t resist going up to Blackpool Promenade to see their
trams bringing to an end 126 years of traditional tramway operation in the
town.
The service
was maintained by (amongst others) Centenary cars 642, 643 and 648. Balloon
715 and Twin-car sets 672/682 & 675/685 had been hired by the Fylde Tramway
Society for its usual end of season tour, although this year’s tour had the
special significance of being an end of system one.
No cars ever
ran beyond Little Bispham this year (except Engineering Car 754). It was
like saying Goodbye to old friends and tomorrow, some go for scrap. I wished
them a tearful farewell.
Bombardier No.2 has arrived, according to the local
paper last night. There is no mention as to whether it is green and cream
and has proper tram-type flit over seats so half the passengers don’t have
to travel backwards – but I suspect it is no on both counts!
As we know, the figure of 26 for the heritage fleet
is very misleading given that it includes training, maintenance and visiting
heritage trams as well as the ‘proper’ passenger fleet.
Trips
Bath &
the West Country by Andrew Webb
The Georgian city of Bath has recently been treated to a new bus station as part of a wider redevelopment of the city's 1960s Southgate Shopping Centre. Historically Bath was a stronghold for Badgerline, the company that was one of the founding parents of First. First still operate a large proportion of services in the city and surrounding areas. Unusual vehicles within the fleet are three Enviro 200 Darts in a special livery for a contract linking the city centre with Wessex Water's offices at Odd Down on the edge of the city. This service operates in the peaks and at lunch time. No route numbers are displayed, rather the running number is shown, as illustrated by 44902 on duty WX3. out of sight at the rear is a fold down bike rack.
Competition in Bath comes from Rotala's Wessex Connect, who operate the U18 linking the universities. Other city services are operated under the "Royal Bath" brand, this ex Blackburn Dart being an example. A handful of relatively rare Optare Solo SRs also operate in service.
Further competition comes from Faresaver who operate city and country services. Once renown for operating Mercedes minibuses (and hiring them to other operators via the associated Next Bus company), larger buses are now operated. A recent arrival is this former Geoff Amos MCV Evolution.
Other operators also serve Bath on individual
routes. Buglers operate this former Diamond bus Dart on a contract within
the city. CT Coaches use Mercedes minibuses on country routes. Finally
Somerbus operate into the city with this MCV bodied Mercedes, a so far
unique bus in the UK
Street in Somerset is famous for
being the home of Clarks shoes. When production shifted to the Far East the
factory site became a "shopping village" similar to that found in Bicester.
Street's High Street is adjacent to the shopping
village and enjoys an interesting range of operators. First operates
frequent trunk routes to Bristol and Taunton. Other less frequent routes are
operated by a range of operators who favour the Optare Solo.
Illustrated here are Bakers Dolphin who run a
route to Shipham. Frome Minibuses operate a route linking Street with
Shepton Mallet. Nippybus operate to Wincanton, whilst Webberbus use one Solo
on a two hourly service to Bridgwater.
Shepton Mallet, famous for the
nation's oldest operating goal, Babycham and more recently the setting for
BBC1's Turn Back Time the High Street series is also the destination for
South West Coaches Line 1 service from Yeovil.
A few pictures to illustrate some of the more
interesting developments in Bristol.
Bristol Park and Ride service
linking the city centre with the car park on the A4 has recently passed from
First to Hackney Community Transport's CT Plus operation. After initial
demands from the city council that brand new articulated vehicles be used a
rethink saw the service provide a home for former Go Ahead London Mercedes
displaced from Red Arrow routes. Former MAL29 illustrates the dedicated
livery for the route, whilst MAL2 is in a generic yellow livery as a spare
vehicle in preparation for CT Plus taking over another route in 2012.
Munden operate a seasonal tour under the City Sightseeing brand. Alongside two Olympians former Metroline Trident TA75 is also operated, its duties being clearly highlighted in the timetable to encourage wheelchair passengers to sample the tour.
First have recently revamped the frequent service
from the Airport with high specification Wright Volvos.
Former London Country LR11 is now with Play on Sports at Canary Wharf, an indoor sports facility. Not sure what the bus is used for, but it was parked outside on a recent visit.
All pictures by Andrew D Webb
Buses in the Landscape
Andrew D Webb
Mark Branson
Delaine 147(SF54JUO) at Helpston, November 2nd
2011 by John Marsh.
Dons of Dunmow DH08DON at Burghley House 021111
J Marsh
Fowlers Jonckheere Volvo (XNO784) at Deeping St
Nicholas on the Crowland service on May 4th 2011.
Kevin Jackson's Setra (WT56KJT) & an Oad Reizen
Bova outside Burghley House on August 13th 2011.
Mark Bland's CAZ6604 in Stamford on august 5th
2011.
P
Omega YN55PXO Oxpens Park 031111 G Francis. This
coach started life on National Express in Birmingham.
Sleafordian KTL982 Bulleid Way London 231111 M
Crowe
Links & Publications
A Guy Arab on the Oxford service and seen at Gloucester Green.
One of the constituent companies was Denham's.
Apart from the archaic Leylands, the company ran some AEC Regals after the
war.
These were rebodied with ECOC/ECW bodies purchased from North Western Road
Car, Stockport via dealers.
They had been new in 1936 on Bristol Jo5G chassis which were rebodied with
Brush bodies in 1946 to a similar design.
Your Editor must have travelled on one of these buses, when in NWRCC
service, as a small boy.
They would have doubtless run on service to Highclere, now well known as the
house is featured in Downton Abbey.
17 Sparrow Close
Woosehill
Wokingham
Berkshire RG41 3HT.