Trips & Running Days

This is where I am including events such as Showbus, Buses Festival and readers reports of trips etc.

Oxford Bus Museum Twilight Running Event - http://www.oxfordbusmuseum.org.uk/

Jonathan Radley writes "Please mention our Twilight Running Evening in Oxford city centre on Saturday 25 March. We will have three double deckers providing rides around the city centre ever 15 minutes from 6.30pm to 8.30pm. Running will be our 1957 AEC Regent 956; our 1961 Dennis Loline 304 and our 1967 AEC Renown 371 (which celebrates its 50th birthday later this summer)."

I hope readers can support this event?

Oxfordshire Bus Enthusiasts Society

The next meeting is on Tuesday, March 21st - details can be found at this link:

http://oxbuses.webs.com/ 

VICTORIA COACH STATION 85TH ANNIVERSARY COACH FESTIVAL - March 10th - 12th 2017

 

 

 

Victoria Coach Station VCS celebrated its 85th birthday with a three-day Coach Festival from 10th to 12th March. Featuring vehicles from every decade since the grand opening on 10th March 1932, the Festival was a showcase for coaches, artifacts and presentations on the history of coach travel in Britain. The most modern coaches will also be on display and available for inspection and boarding, alongside preserved vehicles dating from the late 1920s to the 1990s.

The coach station, originally conceived, constructed and operated by a consortium of coach operators coming together under the banner of London Coastal Coaches Ltd, is now owned and operated by Transport for  London.

TfL were keen to celebrate the history of the coach station and also the ability to demonstrate the continuing development of the facilities within the coach station to meet the needs of the much larger and complex vehicles now using VCS and the people who travel within them.

The imposing 1930s’ Art Deco building on the corner of Buckingham Palace Road and Elizabeth Street is still at the heart of the operation providing the main passenger entrance with areas containing public facilities for enquiries and booking, seated waiting areas and a range of cafes, shops and snack bars. This building and the canopy behind covering a significant part of the coach departure area are Grade 2 listed by Historic England.

Coaches expected to participate.

Registration No

Fleet No

Year

Original Operator

Chassis

Body

Body code

FV4548

D81

1934

Ribble

AEC Regal

English Electric

C18R

JG8720

 

1937

East Kent

Dennis Lancet 2

Park Royal

B35R

GUF727

1227

1946

Southdown

Ld Tiger PS1/1

ECW

B32R

CFN104

 

1947

East Kent

Ld Tiger PS1/1

Park Royal

C32R

EMW284

279

1947

Wilts & Dorset

Bristol L6B

Beadle

C32R

HCD449

1249

1947

Southdown

Ld Tiger PS1/1

ECW

C31R

BMS414

D19

1948

Alexander

Daimler CVD6SD

Burlingham

C33F

NAE3

2467

1950

Bristol Tramways & CC

Bristol L6B

ECW

C31F

PPF492

36

1950

Surrey Motors

AEC Regal III

Harrington

C37F

FFN446

 

1938/51

East Kent

Ld/Beadle

Beadle

C35R

LTA729

1250

1951

Royal Blue (WN)

Bristol LL6B

Duple

C37F

LTA958

1324

1951

Southern National

Bristol LL6B

Duple

C37F

PPH698

 

1951

Epsom Coaches

Bedford SBG

Duple

C33F

MOD973

1286

1952

Royal Blue (SN)

Bristol LS6G

ECW

C39F

OKP980

CO252

1952

Maidstone & District

Beadle

Beadle

C35F

OTT98

1299

1953

Royal Blue (SN)

Bristol LS6G

ECW

C39F

390DKK

CO390

1958

Maidstone & District

AEC Reliance 

Harrington Wayfarer IV

DP40F

780GHA

4780

1959

Midland Red

BMMO C5

BMMO

C37F

WFN513

 

1961

East Kent

AEC Reliance 

Park Royal

DP41F

253KTA

2270

1962

Royal Blue (WN)

Bristol MW6G

ECW

C39F

275KTA

425

1962

Western National

Bristol SUL4A

ECW

C33F

900SAF

 

1963

Hawkey, Newquay

AEC Reliance

Harrington

C47F

ABO145B

145

1964

Western Welsh

AEC Reliance

Harrington

C36F

BHA656C

5656

1965

Midland Red

BMMO CM6

BMMO

C44FT

CVL850D

1431

1966

Lincolnshire Road Car

Bristol RELH6G

ECW

DP47F

KDL885F

301

1968

Southern Vectis

Bristol RESH6G

Duple

C45F

OAX9F

RC968

1968

Red & White

Bristol RELH6L

ECW

C47F

AFM103G

CRG103

1969

Crosville

Bristol RELH6G

ECW

C47F

AVX975G

2614

1969

Eastern National

Bristol FLF6G

ECW

CH37/18F

GJW43N

343

1974

Midland Red

Ld Leopard PSU3E/4R

Marshall

DP49F

MSF750P

XS750

1976

Eastern Scottish

Sn Pennine VII

Alexander M

C42FT

TMX405X

MPE405

1982

Midland Scottish

Ld Leopard PSU3E/4R

Alexander Y

C49F

E50TYG

50

1988

West Riding Auto Co

Ld Royal Tiger RT

Ld Doyen

C53F

 I would like to thank Colin Billington and TV&GOT for permission to use the foregoing.

To mark the occasion, TV&GWOT, in collaboration with the Bus Archive at the Kithead Trust, have drawn on the LCC records to compile a 32-page book celebrating the first 85 years of VCS in pictures.  It includes many previously unseen images spanning the early LCC operations; construction and opening of VCS; and operational views through subsequent decades covering vehicles, passenger facilities and activities ‘behind the scenes’.  The VCS site expansion in the 1960s is followed by a section ‘Wheels to the West’ showing the subsequent design changes in coaches serving the West Country through to the present day.  Priced at just £6 it can be bought on the day from the TV&GWOT stand in the waiting area, or by post for £7.50 (including p&p) by:

Sending a cheque payable to ‘TV&GWOT’ to
Ledger Farm, Forest Green  Road, Fifield, Maidenhead SL6 2NR, or

Pictureview taken by Gavin Francis

   

         

            

     

     

Gavin took the above pictures over the full three days and said what a superb presentation it was.

Seeing some of the coaches, I am minded that my bus driving career started in early 1961, before some of the later models took to the road.
I also remeber travelling on Bristol K and L5Gs when a youngster and later driving for Melba when I was allocated a North Western Bristol L5G/Weymann B35R
for a football special to main road. No one had thought to warn me about the 5 speed gearbox - crash an d not synchromesh!!!
We got there and back but what a challenge it was until I got used to it - no type training in those days.
Something like "are you a bus driver? - then get in and drive it". Happy Days and one wonders what the modern drivers would make of a crash gearbox?
Definitely a challenge in modern day traffic conditions, especially in a heavy traffic jam!!!!

Ralph Adams visits Kent

I was in Kent a few weeks ago and spent a day in Ashford where I lived from 1971-1975. Readers maybe aware that Stagecoach has introduced 30 MB515 buses on two local routes to give a five minute frequency on route C and six minute on route B. The previous frequencies were 15 or 20 minute frequency with Darts and Deckers. 

Drivers. About 50 new drivers are required and I saw two training buses out several times during the day including one with destination Megabus.com. There are several drivers on loan from other local garages. I was surprised how many Nepalese were in town (ex Gurkha soldiers) and are employed by Stagecoach as drivers. It helps with communication with several elderly female passengers. The driver rotas are all mixed for MBs and full size buses. 

Vehicles. There are 13 fixed seats, all reached by 2 small steps. There are also 4 seats at entry level, all flip up to enable one wheelchair / pushchair. Speaking to a driver of 5 years standing, he had not had a single wheelchair passenger, rather different to Oxford where we see them regularity. The seats are standard e-leather as on the latest decker but leg length is very limited. The wheel arches protrude more than expected resulting in seats pushed inwards into the gangway leaving very restricted and entry / exit which was not easy. Sitting on the back row gives very limited side views as the roof support takes up over half the potential window area. However good rear views if you look back unlike the Solos / Versa.

They are 7.3 metres long (comparing a small Solo M710 with 21 seats) and 1.97 metres wide. The width gives ability to maintain road speed easily. The driver noted that a Solo was easier to bring to the kerb than the MB as the wheels on the MB was on the edge whilst the Solo was indented (I did not notice this but did notice we did not come tight to the kerb on occasions.

Passengers. I did not speak to any but the conversations that I heard were very positive about the service but felt the buses were not really suitable for elderly. (2 did get on and went straight to the flip up seats on the entry level, appeared very happy) Good job her husband was not on board (I think he is large) 

Operations. The service is very frequent and in Bank Street (Town Centre) there always appeared to be a B or C waiting so ready for passengers and also gave recovery for late running.

Destinations. The final screen display varied by bus. Route B had Asda-Bridgefield, Park Farm, Asda-Park Farm, all for the same place. Opposite way KENNINGTON, or Bybrook-Kennington. Route G Orbital Park or South Willesborough (same place). The buses have the route letter on the rear. Not brilliant in Bank Street which is one way so the B could be going either north or south although the actual stops are some way apart.

Solos. Route A is operated by 10 Solos (9 in use daily) on a 10 minute frequency. These were provided with Kent County Council finance 10 years ago but are not becoming unreliable although very good when working.. At least 2 deckers were in use including 15443 (ex Oxford, now in East Kent Heritage livery). A driver stated they are not as reliable now as the Darts which are older. At mid day they all had 10+ passengers on board.

Versa. There are 2 operated, always on Route G, a route with council subsidy. Minimal passengers. Very comfortable black leather seats. The number of passengers on the trip I made was minimal, often just me.

Fares. I paid £2.40 for about 1 mile. I did not enquire but this appeared to be a standard fare for most trips.

Ashford garage. 15 years ago Ashford was the smallest East Kent garage, it is now the largest with a PVR of 70, allocation of 81 buses. More than Thanet which had an allocation of over 150 in my youth. There is an extensive school bus operation with seven deckers and five Darts dedicated, several on major cross town services so schoolchildren would not overload the minibuses. Whilst on route E (outer ring service) we had 8 children board at Towers school.

Ralph says "I would like to see a similar operation here in Bicester or Banbury with very frequent services on local routes so hope the experiment is successful."

For those interested I append a few links to enable you to see the new buses Ralph is talking about.

http://www.stevenknightmedia.com/the-steven-knight-media-blog/-stagecoach-south-east-says-little-often-is-just-the-tonic-for-ashford

The link will also take you to Steven Knight very interesting web page.

https://www.stagecoachbus.com/promos-and-offers/south-east/little-and-often

This link will take you to the official Stagecoach web page for the service.

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